I dont like rap and it has nothing to do with race.
I think ppl forget that just bc they’re not actively thinkin “I dont like rap/hip hop bc it’s black music” doesn’t mean that anti-black racism doesn’t figure into those blanket statements/opinions in the 1st place. OPINIONS AREN’T FORMED IN A VACUUM.Yup, this exactly.
And in my experience, more often than not, after talking to these “I don’t like hip hop/rap AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE” people for .5 seconds, their anti-black racism shows anyways.
You are both totally right and your logic is flawless. You have unraveled the complexities of human nature in just a few sentences, which is at least commendable. Thanks for making me realize that, just because people aren’t actively thinking “i don’t like tacos because it’s mexican food” doesn’t mean that they’re not actually racist. They most probably are, especially if they’re white. And if they say that they’re allergic to an ingredient, i will now know that it’s probably their white supremacy manifesting itself in their bodily functions and oozing out of their nostrils when they sneeze.
…Who the fuck are you and what the fuck are you on about.
I’m someone who doesn’t like rap music and doesn’t appreciate idiots making assumptions about why that is.
I don’t like hip-hop or rap, and it has nothing to do with race.
I don’t like it because as a rule? it’s pretty damn homophobic and it’s pretty misogynistic and I don’t like my music telling me that I can *beep* that *beep* up and *beep* the *beep* *beep*. Half the time, so many words are *beeeped* out that I can barely tell what they’re *beeping* saying.
Also, I really hate my sexuality being something that’s performed for the benefit of some man, ala “My Girlfriend’s Gotta Girlfriend” and that Nicki Minaj song about going to go see Usher and that Kanye song about Klondike Bars.
Which has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the fact that I find it distasteful and crude. So, yeah.Your painting of hip hop and rap as a “distasteful and crude” monolith is misinformed, ignorant, reductionist, and bigoted as fuck. Your choosing to magically remove the ties that hip hop and rap has to the African American community is only to alleviate any guilt you might have about your ignorant opinions of the genre. The blackness of hip hop and rap is inextricable with hip hop and rap. Simple as that. That can’t be ignored when people criticize it. You think you’re the first basic motherfuck to come out and say this shit? Really? Sit the fuck down.
TL:DR-Thanks for proving my point marvleously!
“Heard they’d do anything for a Klondike/ well, I’ll do anything for a blonde dyke/ and she’ll do anything for the limelight/ and we’ll do anything when the time’s right” —”Stronger”, Kanye West
“Y’all niggas intellects mad slow/ all ya fags know/ Claimin’ you bangin, you flamin’/ bet you could light your own cigarette with your asshole”
“I might rap tight as the snatch of a fat dyke” — “Fast Lane” —Eminem & Royce Da 5’9“How bought I cum all on your dick and then lick it off?/ I mean it’s somethin’ so funny when it get soft/ I like to play wit’ it, squeeze it like a stress ball/ He said he like to hear the sound of me slurpin it” -“Freaky Girl” —Nicki Minaj
Those are just a few of the examples I can think of off the top of my heard wherein rap and hip-hop are specifically crude, derogatory or discriminatory. That has nothing to do with the colour of the rapper’s skin (Eminem being white and all), and everything to do with the fact that I have no desire to monetarily or socially support a style of music that degrades others.
So why don’t you take that inchoate rage and go spew it somewhere else? I have no problems whatsoever with Black Culture or music—jazz, blues, gospel, funk and soul are all brilliant and challenging as a musician and I can appreciate them with full enthusiasm. I can appreciate the Black contribution to reggaeton and merengue and salsa. But I cannot in good faith support a musical genre that advocates ‘snitches get stitches’ and calling people ‘fat dykes’ and ‘faggots’, and I am well within my rights to say that I find the music unappealing and frankly, a little warped.
And I’ll even say it again: I don’t like rap, and it has nothing to do with race.wait…….but……..you DO know that blues, jazz, funk, and reggaeton have called people “faggots” and “fat dyke” and all sort of degarding, oppresive things. like, you DO know that there are blues songs about eating coochie, right? like, ever heard a Ma Rainey song? this shit ain’t new.
like, i understand not wanting to listen to/support violence and all that. i get it. but……..rap is not the only genre of black music that pulls that shit and you honestly don’t seem to get that and the hypocrisy and utter lack of awareness is bemusing me.
word to so-treu. also is it just my heart-goggles for nicki minaj that finds something off about putting those lyrics of hers along with the other two examples? like i get the problems in the first two but… i don’t… see an issue… with nicki enjoying playing with a dude’s dick? are we… not supposed to like that now, or…? the other two are degrading other people, but the only person i see being “degraded” in the third is nicki herself, for sex things she likes, which UMMMMMM NO. maybe i am reading this wrong?
no I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING
but see, that nicki verse is problematic only if you consider women expressing their sexuality to be problematic. as if it can only be done for the service of men or something.
[gif of Nikki tossing her hair with a bored ‘really don’t care’ look on her face]
Here’s some more songs with crude/offensive lyrics:
Aerosmith: Dude Looks Like a Lady, Head First (basically a whole song about going down on a girl)
Josie Cotton: Johnny Are You Queer?
Katy Perry: I Kissed a Girl, UR SO Gay
George Michael: I Want Your Sex
Def Leppard: Pour Some Sugar On Me
Green Day: Longview (It’s a song about wanking!)
Starland Vocal Band: Afternoon Delight
Wings: Hi Hi HI
The Beatles: Day Tripper, most of their druggier stuff.
None of these are rap, all of these are pretty crude. Hell, some of these songs are even quite sweet sounding, like Afternoon Delight. But still, they’re all about sex or are problematic in some way, and they’re all sung by white people.
And these are just avoiding the bands like Slipknot, where you’ll find such fun lyrics as ‘I want to slit your throat and fuck the wound’. ‘Snitches get stitches’ is a lot less graphic that that, wouldn’t you say?
Most genres of music are overwhelmingly full of dirty, sexy, crude songs and most genres also have a fuckton of problematic songs. Rap/hip-hop isn’t anything new in terms of how much offensive material there is. Seriously. All that’s different now is that you can get away with more before your song gets banned.
Is it surely not better to say “I don’t like music that has homophobic/misogynistic/crude content in it” rather than generalising the entire rap/hip hop genre as a big no-no?
Here’s an example of a song that’s deemed rap/punk/hip hop, that has fucking awesome lyrics:
I can’t turn my head without something trying to influence me
Eat this, buy this, pee here
Yo, fuck you man
You don’t know what’s best for me and I do
And even if I don’t i’ll find out soon
Don’t tell me what to do!
Commercial breaks have got my brain at stake
Your so-called goods are fucking fake
It’s making me irate
Mostly cause I can’t escape
So don’t look my way i’m filled with hate
You should take the blame for most of my mistakes
Too bad i’ve never seen your face
Don’t tell me what to do!
Not at all! Not at all!
Don’t tell me what to do!
Standing tall! I’m standing tall!
Don’t tell me what to do!
Not at all! Not at all!
Don’t tell me what to do!
Standing tall!
Tired of your gimmicks
And we’re tired of your images
Tired of your messages
And we’re tired of your influence
Back the fuck up, your existence is a nuisance
Propaganda propagating fucking douches
